Re: Re: Re: Re: small is beautiful

Posted by TimP on Mon Nov 9 16:37:16 1998

In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: small is beautiful posted by Myles on November 09, 1998 at 15:11:08:

>>>It leads me to think that we must plan to bud.
>>>At 18 (or similar magic number) Paneris-the-site should
>>>perhaps be cloned.

>>surely you jest. I would like to see paneris as a thriving
>>hive of 100's if not 1000's of participants. Is this not
>>the dream?

>My thoughts are much the same. What advantages would there
>be?

Paneris would be more like Taiwan, the SAS, Anderson Consulting, the IRA,
and anyone else who has ever successfully built a stable community.

>>Paneris is not a business, therefor more resilliant to the
>>pressures that bring conventional businesses to the brink.
>>Individual companies withing paneris will inevitably go
>>under, but the community will live for ever!!!

>Quite.

I think that the metaphor needs some tweaking:
if we are talking about the long term evolution of paneris then
we need to be using biological metaphors.
I am thinking in terms of cell division, or the division of
packs in African Wild Dogs, Lions etc, or indeed the asexual propagation
of plants.

The point is that groups implode above a certain size.
The IRA (and the Illuminati :) use 5 as their magic number,
other groups get up to 25, but beyond that you have to introduce
heirarchical concepts and role groupings to characterise the orgainisation.

If we 'just grow' we are taking the oak tree paradigm,
which just gets bigger.

If we design propagation in from the start then we have a chance
that the Paneris species will survive forever.

I don't know how to put it more clearly....
Only things which replicate last...
PanerisII is a budding....
PanerisI will not die it will be joined in the ecosystem of
our attention by PanerisII

Chameleon, and I imagine most of our other customers,
do not want to 'join paneris', but they would like our technology,
and some/most of our way of working. Similarly with Catalyst.

What I am asking is, given the need for budding, how are we to
implement it and (William) what can CVS do to help us?

yours
timP

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>>>>It leads me to think that we must plan to bud. >>>>At 18 (or similar magic number) Paneris-the-site should >>>>perhaps be cloned. >>>surely you jest. I would like to see paneris as a thriving >>>hive of 100's if not 1000's of participants. Is this not >>>the dream? >>My thoughts are much the same. What advantages would there >>be? >Paneris would be more like Taiwan, the SAS, Anderson Consulting, the IRA, >and anyone else who has ever successfully built a stable community. >>>Paneris is not a business, therefor more resilliant to the >>>pressures that bring conventional businesses to the brink. >>>Individual companies withing paneris will inevitably go >>>under, but the community will live for ever!!! >>Quite. >I think that the metaphor needs some tweaking: >if we are talking about the long term evolution of paneris then >we need to be using biological metaphors. >I am thinking in terms of cell division, or the division of >packs in African Wild Dogs, Lions etc, or indeed the asexual propagation >of plants. >The point is that groups implode above a certain size. >The IRA (and the Illuminati :) use 5 as their magic number, >other groups get up to 25, but beyond that you have to introduce >heirarchical concepts and role groupings to characterise the orgainisation. >If we 'just grow' we are taking the oak tree paradigm, >which just gets bigger. >If we design propagation in from the start then we have a chance >that the Paneris species will survive forever. >I don't know how to put it more clearly.... >Only things which replicate last... >PanerisII is a budding.... >PanerisI will not die it will be joined in the ecosystem of >our attention by PanerisII >Chameleon, and I imagine most of our other customers, >do not want to 'join paneris', but they would like our technology, >and some/most of our way of working. Similarly with Catalyst. >What I am asking is, given the need for budding, how are we to >implement it and (William) what can CVS do to help us? >yours >timP > >

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